Comments on: Well-intentioned, but missing the point! http://blog.designit.com/2008/04/02/wauuw-%e2%80%93-lean-recycling/ Designit thinks aloud Tue, 07 Feb 2012 10:03:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Thorlak Fink http://blog.designit.com/2008/04/02/wauuw-%e2%80%93-lean-recycling/comment-page-1/#comment-138 Thorlak Fink Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:03:18 +0000 http://designit.com/blog/2008/04/02/wauuw-%e2%80%93-lean-recycling/#comment-138 Hi Mikal - long time no see or hear. I see your point, but in your case there is only one newspaper "dispenser" on the street. I call your attention to London and a picture I took about a month ago. http://customdesign.dk/images/PICT6815.JPG It shows several (up to 11) newspaper holders with a leftover stack of newspapers. The situation is the same - here the bins just don't come large enough. Another point about these containers: Why do they all look the same? What makes one stand out from the others? Another small comment about your points. In the London underground, where a lot of the papers end up, their is a sharing culture. Very few people actually take the free newspapers out of the train again. They leave them for other people to reuse, and more than once I've had the oppertunity to kill some dead time with a leftover paper. Over 'n' out! I hope you are all well and keep up the good Designit spirit Kind regards Thorlak Hi Mikal – long time no see or hear.
I see your point, but in your case there is only one newspaper “dispenser” on the street.
I call your attention to London and a picture I took about a month ago.
http://customdesign.dk/images/PICT6815.JPG

It shows several (up to 11) newspaper holders with a leftover stack of newspapers. The situation is the same – here the bins just don’t come large enough.
Another point about these containers: Why do they all look the same? What makes one stand out from the others?

Another small comment about your points.
In the London underground, where a lot of the papers end up, their is a sharing culture. Very few people actually take the free newspapers out of the train again. They leave them for other people to reuse, and more than once I’ve had the oppertunity to kill some dead time with a leftover paper.

Over ‘n’ out!

I hope you are all well and keep up the good Designit spirit

Kind regards
Thorlak

]]> By: Rasmus Lynggaard http://blog.designit.com/2008/04/02/wauuw-%e2%80%93-lean-recycling/comment-page-1/#comment-132 Rasmus Lynggaard Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:54:34 +0000 http://designit.com/blog/2008/04/02/wauuw-%e2%80%93-lean-recycling/#comment-132 I get your point in this, I'm just not sure if the problem is what you suggest it is. Did you in fact check the newspapers in the paper bin? My guess is, that they are from the day before or even older. I think it's the guy who comes every morning to refill "A" pile that's to blaim. When he comes in the morning he takes the papers that's left in the "A" pile and puts them into the paper bin "B". Just my guess, I could be wrong. But still it's a interesting photo that explains your point very well. I get your point in this, I’m just not sure if the problem is what you suggest it is. Did you in fact check the newspapers in the paper bin? My guess is, that they are from the day before or even older. I think it’s the guy who comes every morning to refill “A” pile that’s to blaim. When he comes in the morning he takes the papers that’s left in the “A” pile and puts them into the paper bin “B”. Just my guess, I could be wrong.

But still it’s a interesting photo that explains your point very well.

]]> By: niti bhan http://blog.designit.com/2008/04/02/wauuw-%e2%80%93-lean-recycling/comment-page-1/#comment-131 niti bhan Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:11:05 +0000 http://designit.com/blog/2008/04/02/wauuw-%e2%80%93-lean-recycling/#comment-131 Mikal, this photo is very interesting and clearly shows the challenge you identify. A thought, if indeed design has the power to effect behavioral change by virtue of the nature of the profession, then goals for sustainable initiatives (not just products) need to consider what you are suggesting re: persuasive design, as a critical condition for the system design's success not just a beneficial outcome. How and where do we begin in the design process to address these issues? Mikal, this photo is very interesting and clearly shows the challenge you identify. A thought, if indeed design has the power to effect behavioral change by virtue of the nature of the profession, then goals for sustainable initiatives (not just products) need to consider what you are suggesting re: persuasive design, as a critical condition for the system design’s success not just a beneficial outcome.

How and where do we begin in the design process to address these issues?

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